Grumman G-164A N7849
29 June 2024 · Toccoa, Georgia, United States · No injuries
Summary
On 29 June 2024 at about 22:40 local time, a Grumman G-164A registered N7849 was involved in an accident near Toccoa, Georgia, United States. One person was on board and nobody was injured. The aircraft was substantially damaged. The NTSB has published a probable cause for this accident; it is quoted in full below.
The record
- Date
- at 22:40
- Classification
- Accident
- Location
- Toccoa, Georgia, United States
- Nearest airport
- Toccoa Airport-RG Letourneau F (TOC)
- Coordinates
- 34.5928, -83.2964
- Aircraft
- Grumman G-164A
- Registration
- N7849
- Category
- Airplane
- Year built
- 1971
- Engines
- 1
- Operator
- Not recorded
- Operating rule
- Part 91: General Aviation
- Purpose of flight
- Positioning
- Phase of flight
- Not recorded
- Route
- Unknown → Walnut Ridge
- Aircraft damage
- Substantial
- Weather
- VMC
- Light
- Day
- NTSB number
- ERA24LA286
People
Nobody was injured.
| On board | Died | Serious | Minor | Uninjured |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 |
Probable cause
The pilot’s failure to set the engine speed control fully forward during takeoff, resulting in an engine surge and subsequent loss of control during landing.
Quoted verbatim from the NTSB record. This site does not paraphrase or interpret it.
Read the full NTSB narrative
The pilot of the turbo propeller-powered agricultural airplane reported that, during takeoff for a cross-county flight, the engine rpm did not reach 100% but he continued the flight. Shortly after takeoff, the engine appeared to surge and the pilot decided to return to the departure airport. As he approached the airport, the surging worsened and, after touchdown, the engine power started to increase. He tried to shut down the engine, but the power continued to increase. He applied heavy braking to slow the airplane; the left brake then locked, and the airplane departed the runway and the airplane’s wings were substantially damaged. Postaccident examination of the engine revealed damage indicative of an engine that was rotating and operating at the time of impact; no pre-existing condition was found that would have prevented normal engine operation or control. The engine manufacturer issued a Pilot Advisory Letter more than 10 years before the accident addressing the issue of engine oscillations. The letter noted: When performing a takeoff, pilots normally advance the power lever(s) to a takeoff value as specified in the POH/AFM and as indicated on the torque (or equivalent) gauge. If a takeoff is attempted with the Engine Speed Control(s) in any position other than full forward, resulting in the engine not achieving 100-101% RPM, the engine(s) may very well achieve the desired indicated torque; however, the engine(s) will actually develop a reduced level of horsepower. A reduced level of horsepower will result in the degradation of aircraft performance. The letter added that, “One and possibly two adverse effects can result if a takeoff is attempted with the Engine Speed Control(s) in any position other than full forward. They are reduced power output from the engine(s) and the possibility of accompanying engine oscillations.” Since the previous 22 hours of flying did not demonstrate this type of engine behavior, postaccident examination of the engine found no issues that would have prevented normal operation, and the pilot reported both not achieving 100% speed as well as engine oscillations during and after takeoff, the pilot likely did not advance the engine speed control fully forward during takeoff.
Quoted verbatim from the NTSB record.
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|---|---|---|---|---|---|
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| 15 Apr 2015 | Grumman G 164A | Maysville, Oklahoma, United States | Pro-Ag Service Inc | Minor injuries | - |
| 31 Jul 2015 | Grumman G-164A | Emmett, Kansas, United States | Precision Aerial Ag, LLC | Minor injuries | - |
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